1 00:00:00,203 --> 00:00:03,960 “The fact that the Holocaust became my life, 2 00:00:05,209 --> 00:00:10,763 the fact that it became my life goal, my profession, 3 00:00:11,209 --> 00:00:13,083 so to speak, to talk about the Holocaust 4 00:00:13,459 --> 00:00:18,052 – about that terrible Hungarian Holocaust, that was so short – 5 00:00:20,592 --> 00:00:23,708 since then, I can answer that unequivocally.” 6 00:00:24,951 --> 00:00:25,951 That is what Éva says 7 00:00:26,342 --> 00:00:29,568 when she is asked what the Holocaust means to her. 8 00:00:30,349 --> 00:00:32,302 She can talk about her past life 9 00:00:32,779 --> 00:00:34,724 as if it was someone else’s life. 10 00:00:35,647 --> 00:00:38,615 This year, Oskar Gröning, a former SS man 11 00:00:38,623 --> 00:00:40,677 who worked on the ramp in Auschwitz 12 00:00:41,201 --> 00:00:44,661 – he took the inmates’ valuables from them and kept a record of them – 13 00:00:45,303 --> 00:00:48,474 was sentenced to a prison term of four years. 14 00:00:49,443 --> 00:00:50,122 He said: 15 00:00:51,256 --> 00:00:52,536 “For me it is beyond all question 16 00:00:52,899 --> 00:00:55,075 that I am morally guilty. 17 00:00:56,013 --> 00:00:57,052 I ask for forgiveness. 18 00:00:58,021 --> 00:01:01,177 You have to decide on the question of the criminal guilt.” 19 00:01:01,888 --> 00:01:05,302 During the panel discussion on 6 November 2015, 20 00:01:05,334 --> 00:01:06,654 Éva commented: 21 00:01:07,849 --> 00:01:12,325 “I’m still convinced 22 00:01:12,779 --> 00:01:15,607 that he doesn’t fundamentally comprehend 23 00:01:15,928 --> 00:01:18,974 what happened to us there.” 24 00:01:20,709 --> 00:01:23,801 Just like people who weren’t there at all, it seems to be extremely 25 00:01:23,826 --> 00:01:27,099 difficult for former perpetrators to comprehend what happened back then. 26 00:01:27,943 --> 00:01:31,247 Éva managed to come to terms with her difficult past. 27 00:01:31,505 --> 00:01:33,121 Because of the fact that she survived, 28 00:01:33,146 --> 00:01:35,607 she knows exactly what the Holocaust means to her. 29 00:01:37,037 --> 00:01:39,247 For us this question is far more difficult, 30 00:01:39,435 --> 00:01:40,575 because we weren’t there. 31 00:01:41,396 --> 00:01:44,896 All we can do is try to comprehend her feelings and her pain. 32 00:01:45,342 --> 00:01:47,255 But we can never achieve that entirely. 33 00:01:49,123 --> 00:01:52,529 And that’s why it’s all the more important that there are people like Éva Pusztai. 34 00:01:52,912 --> 00:01:56,490 Contemporary witnesses who don’t draw self-pity from their horrible pasts, 35 00:01:57,037 --> 00:01:59,294 but the wish to warn younger people, 36 00:01:59,553 --> 00:02:03,641 so that something like the Holocaust doesn’t happen again. 37 00:02:04,477 --> 00:02:06,367 Because of the fact that we’re still so young, 38 00:02:06,782 --> 00:02:08,836 we hardly have any direct points of contact. 39 00:02:09,788 --> 00:02:13,248 But reflection on the Holocaust is nevertheless very important to us 40 00:02:14,170 --> 00:02:16,443 – in the sense that we reassess it, 41 00:02:16,545 --> 00:02:19,060 that we not only condemn the mistakes of our forebears, 42 00:02:19,428 --> 00:02:21,031 but also take a stand 43 00:02:21,406 --> 00:02:24,468 to bring about real change for the present and the future.